The opinionated ramblings and muses of a weary web victim.

16 year old Pink fan paid 460-odd to be in the mosh pit at Pink's concert last night [in Melbourne] and TWITtered some crap about a bomb...and 'blowing up the Rod Laver arena'....

His face was identified from his page....and he was located in the arena.....carted out by security and didn't get to see anything of the concert.

He now faces Police criminal charges of terrorism [and notification he will NOT be getting a refund].

 

You rug-rats of the 'Me Generation' need to learn about ramifications.

Try NOT to do it at the cost of $460 AND probable permanent criminal record.

And no, it's not an 'over reaction' it's legitimate concerns for PUBLIC SAFETY. [but I'm sure some civil libertarian will get all weepy - even though one possible outcome could easily have been a crowd panic/stampede resulting in actual death and injury].


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on Jul 16, 2013

Yep...and with criminal charges comes the whole ruination of his future.

Like I said in the OP title.

on Jul 16, 2013

Threats
(1) A person (the first person) who threatens to cause a detriment to a second person with intent to prevent or hinder any person (the other person) other than the first person from doing any act which the other person is lawfully entitled to do, or with intent to compel the other person to do any act which the other person is lawfully entitled to abstain from doing, or with intent to cause public alarm or anxiety, commits a crime.
Maximum penalty—5 years imprisonment.
http://www.legislation.qld.gov.au/LEGISLTN/CURRENT/C/CriminCode.pdf 

Good luck proving intent, let alone

He now faces Police criminal charges of terrorism

BTW, I tried to find a source that stated "charges of terrorism" or any with "terrorism" and found nada. You have one?

on Jul 16, 2013


Yep...and with criminal charges comes the whole ruination of his future.

Like I said in the OP title.

 

i hope that would come with convictions, not charges.

do public nuisance offenses show up on a criminal record one needs for job applications in Australia? because no amount of wishful thinking will lead to "charges of terrorism".

 

 

on Jul 16, 2013

do public nuisance offenses show up on a criminal record one needs for job applications in Australia? because no amount of wishful thinking will lead to "charges of terrorism".

A criminal record prevents entry to the US ... so any such will hinder travel prospects at least.

An Aussie Journalist decided to join the 'Save Albert Park' protests when the Formula One was coming to Melbourne.....back in '96..he managed to get arrested....has a record...and is no longer heard of in Journalism...probably due to travel restrictions.

The references to 'terrorism' as a possible charge were cited during media coverage [in Oz] the day after the incident.

As a matter of interest....the Oz Govt. has my Birth certificate and my Marriage certificate. [is yet to get my death certificate].

Meanwhile....the US Govt. has my fingerprints, my retina scan .... [probably my DNA], and, after a visit to the Empire State...probably knows the smell of my undies [bomb sniffer].

Fortunately, my lack of a record...and an abundance of common sense allows me to visit the US when I wish to.

The same probably will NOT be said for this twit.

on Jul 16, 2013

The references to 'terrorism' as a possible charge were cited during media coverage [in Oz] the day after the incident.

they must have realised that this was bogus before they put the transcripts on the internet

i was in the U.S. twice. nice hospitable people, great landscapes, horrible food. but i really wouldn't consider my life ruined if i wouldn't have been there.

is it really that much harder to travel for Australians than Europeans? i don't think so. i have had to apply for visa in quite a few countries and none of them ever wanted to see a criminal record (the US didn't as well back then if i remember correctly).

personally i think there might not even be a conviction. be it as it may, next week i will have forgotten about it anyways. and in the meantime the Syrian Army will take care about the real terrorists from Australia. link

on Jul 16, 2013

i was in the U.S. twice. nice hospitable people, great landscapes, horrible food. but i really wouldn't consider my life ruined if i wouldn't have been there.

Horrible coffee .... Spell checker

As an archie teck there are a couple of must-see cities on the planet [ignoring the hype that is Paris/Rome etc] and that's Venice and New York.

I've managed to see all 4...and if I were to live in only one it'd be New York.

Re the visa - crim record thing, I don't think it's a case of them 'wanting to see one' - it's done 'behind the scenes' as part of the Visa App process.  Afterall...they ain't going to trust you saying 'nah, I'm not THAT axe murderer' ....

 

on Jul 17, 2013

wouldn't make sense to ask for a criminal record for permanent immigration then. also i refuse to believe that the visa-on-arrival guy at some airport has access to my homecountry's databases. i'm not that paranoid yet.

there might be a rare case scenario that one government might ask for a criminal record from an other, but i still hope that this kind of information isn't handed over so easily. the US is an exception in this case.

on Jul 17, 2013

also i refuse to believe that the visa-on-arrival guy at some airport has access to my homecountry's databases.

The arrival/Customs person? Probably not. That's probably done after applying for the visa. That part undoubtedly accesses databases indirectly (through the visa requester's home/host country).

on Jul 17, 2013

do you know what visa-on-arrival means? in many countries as a EU-citizen (and probably as US- or Australian citizen as well) you do apply for the visa at the immigration counter at the airport or border on arrival. 

 

there are countries that require a visa (like India, the US, Russia or Iran) before entering.

and no, handing out information like criminal records to foreign nations without your consent would be illegal here. i think the US makes that consent mandatory for application now. It did not in 1995 when i was there the last time. India, Russia and Iran did not. (and all those countries were in recent years)

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