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I pensioned off the P4/3.0 and dragged my system into the 90's
Published on June 8, 2009 By Jafo In Personal Computing

The old box served well for over half a decade ..... but eventually life was passing me by.... particularly during the FULL boot time being around 10 minutes....

It was [in its day] a fairly decent machine...P4/3.0 in an ASUS P4P800e Deluxe mobo with 2 gig [4x500] ram and eventually about the 'fastest' AGP card still around....a HD3850 with 512 GDDR3...all in an old Lian Li P60, powered by a TruePower 550 Watt PSU.

Then I got hacked....ending up as a mule server for email spam [I think] ... along with my having a Win 7 RC to experiment with prompted me to 'do it' sooner, rather than later.

So, off I went to my fave Comp shop armed with a list...

...and a credit card.

Just a little time later.... I had a boot full of boxes and not much money left.

Thursday last it was....as I get it all home and eagerly started poking and prodding and lots of RTFM-ing.

Friday, and out came the drill and jigsaw to cut a hole into the MoBo tray of the Case ..... so the after-market cooler would fit.... bugger of a bloody big thing it was, too.

By Saturday arvo I was sitting at the dining table with fingers in my ears as I switched it on...no OS, etc....no Keyboard or Mouse .... just to see if lights would come on....and there'd be NO smoke......

They did...and there wasn't.

Sunday...was OS time...so in went Win7 RC1 [32 bit].

Took 4/5ths of eff-all time to install and there it was in all its quasi-Vista 'splendour'.

About the only way to describe it all  [other than black - as in the box] was/is "fucking fast".

I ain't got the MoBo drivers all in [Win7 compatibility]...and haven't rebooted yet since the Graphic Card driver install....

Can't even see it in real detail/scale as it's currently on a 17" CRT ....

...and I'm learning all about what won't always work as expected [like Sysmetrix]...but darn it's good...

The 'bits' I already have....to migrate across to the new machine ar the bits that plug in .... The DiNovo Edge KB ...the MS Explorer mouse ...the ASUS M221u LCD....scanners....printers....Logitech G15 wheel and pedals...etc.

What I got....

Lian Li PC-A6010 case [black]

Antec TruePower Quattro 1000w PSU

ASUS P6T-se  X58 i7 MoBo

Intel i7 920 2.66Ghz LGA1366 CPU

OCZ 6G-Triple [3x2G] PC12800 Gold Ram

CoolerMaster V8 CPU Cooler [that bloodey big thing]

Vantec EZ2 Sata hot-swap racks x2

1TB Seagate Sata2 7200 HD x2 [for backup/data]

250G Seagate Sata2 7200 HD x2 [for OS]

ACR-105 Multi card reader

LG Sata DVD-RW x2

XFX 1G GTX285 Black Edition [vid]

 

When Win7 is finally released I'll opt for the 64bit ver...and possibly double the ram....

Funniest thing is....I thought sysmetrix wasn't working....looking at CPU load and ram usage.....till I looked closer....


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on Jun 08, 2009

Ok Mooster resized the post.

Pas got to look into that True cooler a bit. But I've got this idea that is hard to get rid of at the moment.

on Jun 08, 2009

OCZ 6G-Triple [3x2G] PC12800 Gold Ram

And, you're predicting a 64 bits OS? Who sold you that allllmmmoooost too low amount of RAM?

I ain't got the MoBo drivers all in [Win7 compatibility]...and haven't rebooted yet since the Graphic Card driver install....

I'd rephrase that "process" with a Bios setup (test) phase if i were you, but i'm not.

 

Soooo, what is it about switching systems and the longevity of gears these days?

1-- Your predictable needs.

2-- Coincidental pricing variations.

3-- Whomever stocks both when you show up.

 

Strangely, i still had the dual/quad speedy decision to make last summer and yet, if i had waited long enough the comparative costs wouldn't have changed that much.

Call it misinformation, by degree. Or M$ asynchronous releases of services & support to Vista. How time flies when proper drivers fail to follow within weeks.

on Jun 08, 2009

I have the same graphics card and cooler, very nice. did you notice the pot to increase/decrease fan speed. mine is set at about a quarter on. not showing off or anything like that...

oh yeah

on Jun 08, 2009

about that V8, is the fan blowing out and the logo so it can be read or did you take it apart and mount the fan to blow the opposite direction? when i bought mine, if i had mounted it so the logo could be read, teh fan was blowing back into the case. i took it apart to turn the fan around plus sleeve the wires.

Pas...now you have me wondering...I'd assumed they'd know which way was 'out' in most case designs [if not all].... but now I'll have to look specifically.

And, you're predicting a 64 bits OS? Who sold you that allllmmmoooost too low amount of RAM?

6Gig was $245 AUD ....and with a 1 gig GPU a 32 bit OS will be lucky to see about a third of that.

Win 7 will be my ONLY purchase of a 64 OS [unless I grab the 64 RC before]....and that won't be till it's out [October-ish], by which time a further 6 gig may be somewhat cheaper....or who knows....a revision UP to 24gig....if the price is right....

 

on Jun 08, 2009

Congratz on the new works! Hell of a jump, there!!! 

on Jun 08, 2009

[October-ish], by which time a further 6 gig may be somewhat cheaper.

I wouldn't hold my breath on that if I were you.  I've been watching Oz prices for some months now (due to my own upgrade), and while some prices are minimally dropping, DDR3 RAM is either static or going up a few dollars here and there.  That's partly why I went with an AMD Phenom II x4 920 instead of the i7... DDR2 (which I already had) works with the Phenom. Yup, I would have gone the i7 route, but the DDR3 priced me right out of going that way, being I had to replace my PSU and GPU as well.

Come October, though, who knows???

A lot depends on how well the AUD is faring against the greenback at the time, whether or not suppliers pass on any savings IF it improves... which, given my recent experience purchasing the Phenom, is something they hold off on for as long as possible.... if they do at all. Some will claim "old Stock", but my CPU was manufactured and shipped in April 09, after the AUD had risen to 70c + against the USD, yet I still paid the February price, when the AUD was hovering around 50c -55c to the US $

*Can blame Paul Keating for a lot of that... he's the one who floated the AUD, deregulated banks (so they can cash in on it all with currency conversion and other exorbitant fees) and dismantled price control/indexation.*

We in Oz have always paid more for our PC harware/software than our US counterparts, so let's hope things improve some and that DDR3 (plus other items) drops in price... cos yeah, I'd also like to upgrade to an i7 next year sometime.

on Jun 08, 2009

Congrats on the new rig Jafo!  

on Jun 08, 2009

congrats on your new system

on Jun 09, 2009

We in Oz have always paid more for our PC harware/software than our US counterparts, so let's hope things improve some and that DDR3 (plus other items) drops in price... cos yeah, I'd also like to upgrade to an i7 next year sometime.

The pain of the 'bottom line' was the entire kit and kaboodle ended up almost exactly $3000 AUD.

V8 fan is pointing the right way...so all's good there...no need to alter it.

Only thing 'wrong' was the HD Led connection was arse-about and thus not working - 'tis now...

ASUS MoBo disk keeps saying it's not compatible with the OS....so I've been installing drivers, etc manually.

Re the price.... I think back to that first 'new' computer I ever bought [that wasn't a hand-me-down] .... a P100 with 8 meg of ram and a 1 gig drive and 4 meg graphic card .... it was over $2100 way back when the USD was worth more than dunny paper....

on Jun 09, 2009

ASUS MoBo disk keeps saying it's not compatible with the OS....so I've been installing drivers, etc manually.

That will be changing here really fast in the next few weeks I think Paul.

Bunch of new drivers are in the making for those asus boards. Specfic win7... Really not much to change to get it to work.

Glad you figured your work around.

on Jun 09, 2009

Super Pi to 1.0m numbers, do you have them?

 

-DrGonzo

on Jun 09, 2009

Re the price.... I think back to that first 'new' computer I ever bought [that wasn't a hand-me-down] .... a P100 with 8 meg of ram and a 1 gig drive and 4 meg graphic card .... it was over $2100 way back when the USD was worth more than dunny paper....
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Given the way things have been recently, the Oz dollar isn't worth dunny paper, even.  Maybe a snotty, used tissue, but not a lot more.  Moreover, given that PC parts have dropped in price around the World since your P100, considerably more than here, we are still paying too much.... and probably always will be.  Sad, isn't it, cos we're 'downunder' people think we're the arse end of the World and uneducated as to what PC parts should cost.

Irrespective of all that, my anger that we're being ripped off, I'm glad that you got the upgrade you wanted.  May you get many years of enjoyment from it...

... though I imagine several years of frustration for yrag.

Despite not being able to afford an i7 upgrade this time around, my Phenom II is the bees knees compared to what I had and I'm happy with its performance.

on Jun 09, 2009

Well....it's still going strong....even the 'important' proggies [Games] work ....simple copy/paste from the other machine too.... [Important means.... rFactor and GTR2].

Only difference is...I set it all to the max and it flies....at last.....real frame-rates....

on Jun 09, 2009

Im sooo close to my new PC AHGGGG!! DAMN  IT ALL SOOO CLOSE!

on Jun 09, 2009

Only difference is...I set it all to the max and it flies....at last.....real frame-rates....

See!!!  Told you that you were an effing show off, and this ^ proves it... wink, wink, nudge nudge - say no more.

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