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Published on February 3, 2015 By Jafo In Personal Computing

Following on with ID's thread re new PC build.... and I'd only hijacked Starkers' one to describe what I'd been doing to date...so here's my own thread with the ins and outs of what's what.

My old machine [also home-grown] was a [then] reasonably OK machine....

Lian Li PC-A6010 case [black]

Antec TruePower Quattro 1000w PSU

ASUS P6T-se  X58 i7 MoBo

Intel i7 920 2.66Ghz LGA1366 CPU

12G OCZ Triple [6x2G] PC12800 DDR3 Gold Ram

CoolerMaster V8 CPU Cooler

Vantec EZ2 Sata hot-swap racks [x2][black]

1TB Seagate Sata2 7200 HD [x2] [redundancy backup/data]

2TB Western Digital Caviar Green Sata2 HD [x2]

500G WD Sata2 7200 HD [game backups]

250G Seagate Sata2 7200 HD [x2] [secondary/alternate OS installs in racks]

240G SanDisk SDSSDX240GG25 [for OS]

ACR-105 Multi card reader

LG Sata DVD-RW [x2][black]

ASUS GTX590 3GB GPU

Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit RTM.

 

That was its final specs...having doubled the ram from 6 and adding a 'faster' GPU.

The stumbling block was really 'just' the CPU.  For FSX  it's a case of 'the faster the better' - so just before Xmas I started researching....

 

More to come...

 


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on Oct 29, 2015

MagistarNL ....the specs in the OP are the old computer that dates back 6 or 7 years.

The current one has the OS [and main games] on a M.2x4 drive.... considerably faster than any 7200rpm platter...or almost all SSDs currently...

 

See comment #4 ...

on Oct 29, 2015

I have run into problems of a similar nature with almost every card reader I have ever used, both internal and external.  I went through three internal units in one year once, all on the same rig. Now I just leave the card in the device using it and connect/access it via  a usb cable and keep my fingers crossed.

on Oct 29, 2015

MagistarNL

edit: Can't reply anymore so I will do an edit.
The M2 SSD is awesome. But the PC still has these drives right?
3TB Western Digital Caviar Green Sata2 HD [G + D] [hotswap] $ 128
2TB Western Digital Caviar Green Sata2 HD [I] [hotswap] $ 99
2TB Western Digital Caviar Green Sata2 HD [J] [hotswap] $ 99
I recommended moving those to a separate NAS . I hated it when I went to "computer" and they all started spinning up. I went from 6 disks to 3. The Raid 0 I use to fit my 980 GB of installed games. Let's hope 1 TB NVME SSD's become affordable soon

True re the platters spinning up.... but they're mostly backup drives without frequent accessing.  Between the 3 SSDs there's no need to be diving into the platters  in the midst of 'doing stuff'...

on Oct 29, 2015


On a different note...Terry's machine was getting annoying [slow] - [it's the machine listed in the OP]...so is now running Win10.
That's the 4th machine here.
IE likes to crash ...and the logon screen doesn't draw correctly, and a lot of system images are not showing as they should.
Only proggy I needed to pull off was Deskscapes.
I'll need a few more days tinkering before I call it a 'success' ...

Day 2 of configuring 10 to behave.

IE still crashes ....Edge doesn't show imported favourites.

Chrome is fine [typical].

Added OD manager and Start10....uninstalled the rest of SD's stuff ie. WB7 [even that original SDC] except fences and Object Dock.

There's an update that supposedly fixes the IE crash ....am checking if it helps.

Definitely graphic anomalies with the login...click on a user and you get squirly text [place holding]...so arguably the GUI is TRUE SHIT.

The password input is still rubbish and does not draw.

 

It's very much NOT a 'clean install' so some crap is expected.

I wasn't disappointed...

on Oct 29, 2015

And its last full-boot time was 53 seconds.

on Oct 29, 2015

Looks like much of it is down to the NVidia drivers....and getting one to install is the fun part.

Even when it claims to have 'failed' things improve...but reboot and it's still NQR.

So far, various 'fixes' on the net haven't.

on Oct 30, 2015

See!  I told you Win 10 is a problematic pig.

And still you went ahead and installed it on Terry's machine... not to mention a couple of your own. 

Shame on you... giving your poor wife a broken OS like that.   In this day and age that's grounds for sleeping on the couch... and only then because the kennel is full.

Then there have been those wives who have invited the dog inside.... so the hubby can take his rightful place in the doghouse... and installing 'piggy' Win 10 on a wife's PC probably is a 'doghouse crime' in the eyes of many wives... given its shite UI and built in spy features which doom users to be presented with all that 'wonderful' advertising on the multi-coloured Start Menu that looks like a reject from a Fisher Price factory.

Seriously, my sister has Win 10 on her laptop and she hasn't had any reacl technical issues with it thus far.  However, having said that, she just doesn't like it and wants to revert back to Win 8.1.  I told her that she should be able to do that via the 'recovery drive' that's still got 8.1 on it, but being scared to meddle with things she's waiting until we next meet so that I can do it.

One of her pet hates is the "coat of many colours" start menu... AND the placement of ads within.  I fully understand that!  I wouldn't tolerate them, either.  Yes, yes, Start10 gets rid of all that, but there is too much else wrong with Win 10 in its current form for me to install it on any of my rigs  MS would have to perform a major rewrite to completely remove those core components that send personal data back to Redmond.  Failing that, I'll stick with 8.1 until no longer viable, and/or move over to Ubuntu, Mint or Robolinux, which natively installs Windows based proggies, so I read somewhere.

Or..... I could wait for Win 12.

 

on Oct 30, 2015

starkers

Or..... I could wait for Win 12.

Sorry but I have to comment. 

 

Win 12..................

on Oct 30, 2015

starkers...the 'one' issue is with the NVidia driver for 10.  It'll get fixed, and isn't a deal breaker.  Now, Vista's [for me] was also one driver...the dsl modem's ...and without that the OS couldn't get online to fix itself...so it was as useless as tits on a bull.

By 7 the lack of drivers was resolved.

ALL new OS's have issues, and 8 was a bigger dog than 10, but you won't agree...because you've never used 10 and are thus somewhere between gullible and biased.

Terry's machine now on 10 is THE guinea pig for mine...they are OS system/program-wise identical other than the new one having newer hardware.  Heck, even the OS keys are identical.

Far more than I imagined works just fine.... and it's very much NOT a virgin install.

The cause of the issue is the 'mandatory' Win updates that I'll set to defer so as to avoid repeats of the 'argument' as to who is updating the drivers... MS or ME.

Then I'll tweak the boot time and see how quick is actual and possible, but whatever it is is immaterial as my machine gets booted a handful of times in a year...whilst Terry's spends more time off than on.... maybe 1 day in a year.

 

on Oct 30, 2015

I also used my GF's pc (i5 4670K, so not as exotic as build I have seen here) as test machine for Windows 10. Zero problems so far. However I did do a clean install from a USB drive created by the official MS media tool (after I upgraded first to get it Activated). I would rather just avoid the X hours to solve bug Y because I did an upgrade .

 

edit: I did have to upgrade Acronis True Image to the 2015 version because the older version do not support Win10.

on Oct 30, 2015

Aside from the mandatory updating bullshit, my only problem with Win10 so far(aside from that ass browser it shipped with) is that I had to use third party software to unfuck it's start menu.

 

It's nice for SD that they get a guaranteed sale of Start10 any time someone marginally intelligent switches to 10, but it's not so nice for those of us having to use the OS...

 

The security nonsense, I configured on install because I bought a copy of the OS instead of upgrading or running a pre-installed OS filled with bloatware.  It's mostly nonsense though, I may not be remotely interested in anything it brings, but if you want cloud functions, you have to actually connect to a cloud, there's nothing particularly malevolent in having an OS do such things.  It may be pointless and retarded for anyone serious, but Microsoft isn't just spying on you and using Cortana as a pretense.  The advertisements, I would never have tolerated, but disabling them is really, really easy.

 

Edge is truly broken though, freezes and crashes galore in that POS browser, but the OS isn't nearly as bad as 8.  If they'd just shipped it with a working browser, it would be close to 7's release quality.  Of course, it also lacks any real reason to upgrade outside of DX12.  8 was actually significantly faster than 7, resulting in noticeable real world performance gains in application responsiveness, of course, you had to modify it to get rid of that stupid metro before you could enjoy them, but they were there.  10 is not.

on Oct 30, 2015

psychoak's pretty much on the button.

It seems movement's afoot re mandatory updates as there's already history of issues with it.

I've just downloaded the 'ideal' driver...and a specific KB to deal with the updating...and shall see how I go with those.

It's apparently not every GPU that has the issue...but the 590 sure does.

This machine won't be going anywhere near 10 until I KNOW that the 980 is totally OK ...

on Oct 30, 2015

The free Windows 10 complicates things. In the Windows XP/Vista x64 time I just ran a dualboot and only started Vista for a few DX10 titles (World in Conflict and Crysis). Now you need to upgrade first which basically means you need to create an image and restore it if you want a chance at a dual boot. Takes a lot of time... Even then I heard that upgrading to Win10 will consume your Windows 7 key.

on Oct 30, 2015

Nothing is free.  Win 10 comes with the hassle and bloat of upgrading an OS instead of a clean install, unless you buy it.

on Oct 30, 2015

psychoak

Nothing is free.  Win 10 comes with the hassle and bloat of upgrading an OS instead of a clean install, unless you buy it.

Hmm no you can. First upgrade. Then your hardware GUID will be stored on the microsoft servers.  Then download the Windows Media Creation tool and create an USB installer (or DVD). https://www.microsoft.com/nl-nl/software-download/windows10 . Run that and skip the serial when asked. As soon as you go online your Windows 10 will be activated based on the hardware GUID.

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