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Published on February 3, 2015 By Jafo In Personal Computing

Following on with ID's thread re new PC build.... and I'd only hijacked Starkers' one to describe what I'd been doing to date...so here's my own thread with the ins and outs of what's what.

My old machine [also home-grown] was a [then] reasonably OK machine....

Lian Li PC-A6010 case [black]

Antec TruePower Quattro 1000w PSU

ASUS P6T-se  X58 i7 MoBo

Intel i7 920 2.66Ghz LGA1366 CPU

12G OCZ Triple [6x2G] PC12800 DDR3 Gold Ram

CoolerMaster V8 CPU Cooler

Vantec EZ2 Sata hot-swap racks [x2][black]

1TB Seagate Sata2 7200 HD [x2] [redundancy backup/data]

2TB Western Digital Caviar Green Sata2 HD [x2]

500G WD Sata2 7200 HD [game backups]

250G Seagate Sata2 7200 HD [x2] [secondary/alternate OS installs in racks]

240G SanDisk SDSSDX240GG25 [for OS]

ACR-105 Multi card reader

LG Sata DVD-RW [x2][black]

ASUS GTX590 3GB GPU

Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit RTM.

 

That was its final specs...having doubled the ram from 6 and adding a 'faster' GPU.

The stumbling block was really 'just' the CPU.  For FSX  it's a case of 'the faster the better' - so just before Xmas I started researching....

 

More to come...

 


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on May 07, 2015


Quoting psychoak,
reply 88

A Deep Silence 6 is only 200 on Amazon, expensive handles.

They look pretty good....just not comparable if you see one of these things in the flesh. The simple thickness of the metal [on the Level 10] exudes quality alone..

Agreed, the Level 10 is a sturdy case that exudes quality, style and personality.... if only I could get one in your model for my new build.  Oh well, the Cosmos II is pretty neat and of great quality also... and I still have my 'latter styled' Level 10, which is still sexy in its own right.

As for the Deep Silence 6, it is a stylish looking case with messes of room fo expansion, but it don't half look vacant with an ATX mobo and not much else installed.  I still prefer the Level 10 and/or Cosmos II, though.


Oh, and the handles are a bit of a joke....you have to be a bit of an Atlas to lift it once built ....


Yeah, it's a bit like that.  Even Arnie 'd have to do an extensive warm up and pop another steroid to hoist one up by the handle.   I haven't weighed mine since adding more components since the build was completed, but it'd be in the vicinity of 50kg - 55kg, me thinks... and not a dead-weight I'd like to be lifting by the handle alone.

On another note, my Cosmos II is paid for and should arrive on Monday or Tuesday, not that I'm in any hurry without the main guts of the machine on hand.  Still, I'm upgrading the Level 10 rig with a Z97X mobo, up from a Z87X mobo to accomodate M.2 drives and other updated tech [Thunderbolt, USB 3.1, SATA EXpress] natively.  It should also boot performance a bit, given it's a faster chip... not that I'm too sure about working on it... means I gotta lift the big bastard onto a work bench again.

on May 07, 2015

starkers

up from a Z87X mobo to accomodate M.2 drives and other updated tech [Thunderbolt, USB 3.1, SATA EXpress] natively.

Wait a bit for the new M2 drives...about twice as fast as the current one [as mine is].  Not released yet...and no idea of pricing...but I bet a 512 will be pushing a grand...

 

The LE Level 10 was 50 kilos empty...

on May 07, 2015


Quoting starkers,
reply 91

up from a Z87X mobo to accomodate M.2 drives and other updated tech [Thunderbolt, USB 3.1, SATA EXpress] natively.

Wait a bit for the new M2 drives...about twice as fast as the current one [as mine is]. Not released yet...and no idea of pricing...but I bet a 512 will be pushing a grand..

For now I'm just upgrading the mobo in readiness for those newer, faster drives, etc.  BTW, the mobo for the Level !0 rig also has two M.2 connectors, one being the Ultra M.2 @ 30gbps, and the other being the current 10gbps M.2 connection.... though the current M.2 drives are compatible with either, and vise versa when the new M.2s are available. The only downside to using the regular M.2 connectionon that mobo is that its bandwidth is shared and SATA ports 5 and 6 then become inactive, but not to worry, there are still 8 live SATA ports remaining.

As for buying one of the new M.2s, well that's going to have to wait until after I've gotten the rest of the new build, and then some.  The 256gb Samsung M.2 I've already got will suffice for the Level 10 rig 'til then, and a mate gave me the addy of where I can get a Crucial 512gb M.2 for $379.95, which I shall look into getting for the Cosmos II rig... when I can find the bit of paper he wrote it on... it's around here somewhere, I know it... I hope. 

If not he's just a phone call away.... that's if I can remember his No.

on May 07, 2015

starkers

The only downside to using the regular M.2 connectionon that mobo is that its bandwidth is shared and SATA ports 5 and 6 then become inactive,

SATA ports?  Mine shares PCIe 16 slot 5.  The 8 SATAs are unaffected...

on May 07, 2015



Quoting starkers,

The only downside to using the regular M.2 connectionon that mobo is that its bandwidth is shared and SATA ports 5 and 6 then become inactive,



SATA ports?  Mine shares PCIe 16 slot 5.  The 8 SATAs are unaffected...

Yeah, different manufacturers and different methods, I guess,  However, that's the second M.2 port @10Gb/s.  The first M.2 port @30Gb/s, which 'll be the one I'd use for the OS, is standalone and shares with nothing, thus leaving the SATA ports and PCIE slots free for other devices...though if I wanted to dual boot, I wouldn't mind sacrificing a couple of SATA ports to add a second M.2 drive.  I'd still have 8 SATA ports free... and if I wanted to, I could add another 4 or maybe 8 ports with the PCIE to SATA cards I have.

Thing is, the Level 10 rig only has 8 drives, so that's not necessary.  The Cosmos II, however, has two SSD bays and the front plus 13 HDD bays, and I intend to use them all to store all the extended family's photos and videos, my music and personal files, etc... not forgetting, of course, backups of everything.  That's where the AsRock X99 Extreme 11 comes in, with its two Ultra M.2 ports, 10 SATA 3 ports and 8 SAS ports., which are backwards compatible with SATA 3. 

Yup, so my build has changed some since I first mentioned it, but it was likely to happen, given I have 'til August until all the components are in my possession.  Okay, so maybe I'd have gotten there a little quicker had I not spent $210 to upgrade the mobo in the Level 10, but hey, the CPU couldn't perform to its full potential on the X87 board, and simply, that's not acceptable to me.

Besides, I gave up going to the pub, smoking and hookers, so I can treat myself if I like.

on May 07, 2015

I spend all my time looking at the monitors, not the case.

on May 07, 2015

psychoak

I spend all my time looking at the monitors, not the case.

Same here, but a good looking case with lots o' good shit in it makes looking at the monitors even more enjoyable.

on May 07, 2015

I thought my new build was top of the line until I saw this thread. Paul, that's is one bad ass rig you got there...wow.

on May 07, 2015

psychoak

I spend all my time looking at the monitors, not the case.

Yes...but what happened in this build was that I was looking for 'my usual' well-made Lian Li ...but couldn't get one that would BOTH do everything I wanted AND fit in the spot under the desk I'd already made....

....so the idea came to me that the case 'could' just sit on top of the desk [thus being quite visible] and then if it were to actually look 'good' it wouldn't simply be a case of being too big to be put away.  The Level 10 Titanium looks 'good' from every direction....even the arse end doesn't look like the south end of a north-bound camel like many do...

on May 08, 2015



Quoting psychoak,

I spend all my time looking at the monitors, not the case.



Yes...but what happened in this build was that I was looking for 'my usual' well-made Lian Li ...but couldn't get one that would BOTH do everything I wanted AND fit in the spot under the desk I'd already made....

....so the idea came to me that the case 'could' just sit on top of the desk [thus being quite visible] and then if it were to actually look 'good' it wouldn't simply be a case of being too big to be put away.  The Level 10 Titanium looks 'good' from every direction....even the arse end doesn't look like the south end of a north-bound camel like many do...

If you keep going with just how beautifil the Level 10 Titanium looks when I can't get one, I'm going to have to boycott/bypass any and all your posts with such a mention.  It's not that I'm green with envy, either.  No, it has gone beyond that.  I've turned every shade of green and now the 'blackness' has begun to set in, having been through several shades of dark grey along the way.

I'd call you a lucky, lucky bastard, but it ain't gonna help me get one, so I'll just call you fortunate and be thankful for my Cosmos II.

As for cases not fitting under the bench/in the tower pigeon hole, neither my Level 10 GTS or the Cosmos II will fit, so I built an elevated plaform they can both sit on beside the desk... yet off the floor where they'd attract more dust, etc.

on May 14, 2015

Since that BSOD event...I have rebooted 3 times....and each of them has been painless...no issue of having to hard reset 2 or 3 times before a boot succeeds.

I imagine I have had a Windows update and/or a driver update somewhere along the line that has cured it.

On a related note....after about a decade of using my Logitech Dinovo Edge...I figured it was er timely to give it a clean....[was getting a wee bit crusty].

Did so...worked a treat...looks as good as new...except for the "polished' wear marks of the most-used keys. [their surface is slightly textured....part of the quality of a good tactile interface...

It all means I don't have to drag out my 'spare' Edge I'd bought a few years ago - just in case....yet...

on May 15, 2015


Since that BSOD event...I have rebooted 3 times....and each of them has been painless...no issue of having to hard reset 2 or 3 times before a boot succeeds.

I imagine I have had a Windows update and/or a driver update somewhere along the line that has cured it.

That's good to know... being I'll have a similar setup, with a different mobo but the same CPU and DDR4 RAM.... with the newer RAM being the possible cause of your failed boots.

As for my current mobo upgrade from Z87 to Z97, my supplier has been unable to access it due to the ASRock Z97 Extreme6 being discontinued.  Despite the manufacturer still making it, the licensed importer has decided to drop it from his catalogue and will replace it with the ASRock Extreme6/3.1.  It adds USB 3.1 but will likely add 60 - 70 bucks as well.  Oh well!

The shipment doesn't arrive 'til next week so I'll have a bit longer wait, not that it bothers me.  The Cosmos II case will be shipped to me at the same time, and it's not like I'm in any hurry there, either.

on May 18, 2015

Treated myself to another piece of kit to compliment the Level 10 ....a Level 10 Hybrid mouse....makes the old MS Explorer look a little....lame...

 

on May 19, 2015


Treated myself to another piece of kit to compliment the Level 10 ....a Level 10 Hybrid mouse....makes the old MS Explorer look a little....lame...

 


I did have thoughts as to getting one of those myself, but having already spent a fistful on the Level 10 system itself, plus already having a functional mouse/keyboard combo was reason enough to give it a miss.

Anyway, it's looking like my planned i7 5960X build will be have to be cancelled... well, for this year at least, and maybe most of next.  More pressing concerns have arisen over the last couple of days,  I'm having to spend the allotted/earmarked funds fot the rig on health related matters instead.

Oh well, it's what happens when you're getting on and have gotten banged around some over the years.  Never mind, I am getting to upgrade my i7 4790K rig with a better mobo, so it's not like I don't get to satisfy my tech obsession at all... and when the time comes around for a new build, I only have to worry about a CPU, mobo and RAM cos I have the case and everything else.

on May 21, 2015

Given that Thermaltake only produced 500 Level 10 Titanium Editions, I find it unbelievable that traders still have them for sale.... or at least advertising that they still have them in stock.  Today, while on my internet travels, I discover yet another company with such a claim/ad.... see here

Now I'm wondering if I call 'em out on it... threaten legal action when they can't supply me one... or insist they scour the internet to get me an original model.... from whatever obscure corner of the web one might be hiding.

And if they find/get me one, demand a very heavily discounted price for the inconvenience and the time I had to wait.  

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