Sorry I guess I do not understand the issue if the site is giving you credit for your work and you were offering it for free anyway.

Intellectual property is as real as any other.  Taking it and giving it away elsewhere is theft.  It's not about who has it, it's about how they get it.

Also, I fail to see how the number of members vs. the number of guests is relevant in this discussion.

I really thought 'Not Bichur' would be there..

I love you man, you know that right?
I was going to post it (Not Bichur) here for someone to take (anyone!) but I don't have it on this PC and can't get to skinnalicious.net 

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here's the link you posted at JoeUser (800x600): WWW Link

was the original this size or bigger?

even my 2 walls are there thats just sad.....

fired off a letter.


to answer the question?

Its my property I upload for Private use by others.any other use needs AUTHORIZATION BY me....they were not uploaded for some yahoo to build a site and use my stuff to pad his pockets by selling ad space while using mine and others stuff as bait for traffic..I control it's distribution on the net.

Now if he had simply asked me...I would have been glad to offer them up to help start a new budding desktop customization site...but to just take...thats a No No

I found 2 of mine. I'm kinda 'chuffed' but enraged, of course  

heres another site...hes taken my Screen shots and upped them for some odd reason.. i see jaluran icon pacage advertised too.. but is in some language...I cant even make out who ta Email...WWW Link

I don't mind as long as I'm given credit. Which I am. And nothing added or taken away from it. It's just more exposure.
If they're free, then I see no harm done.

"Premium for free" is a whole other matter.

true but it wouldnt be difficult for someone to post a request here for authors permissions for supporting a new site. i know many here dont mind lending a helping hand ...

Chinese I believe. At least that's what the 'about' in English says (down on the bottom)

here's the contact page: WWW Link

He is giving credit to the owners, so don't be so paranoid. Instead look to yourself and consider the fact that posting personal information is an criminal act in the country where I am living, even if this information is freely available... So posting the name and function and email of the owner of the website instead of looking who posted the wallpapers is illegal AND is saying more about you then about him...

But I will get flamed probly, so don't bother, I know: saying anything bad about Stardock or one of it's slaves (I mean memebers offcourse, where did that come from...) will get you banned, deleted or worse ignored!

The information quoted is freely available on the internet and is in the public domain, and so does not come under the Data Protection Act. Neither is it stored in a 'relevent filing system'.

It's not paranoid to show concern about a breech of copyright law and act upon that law. It's taking care of people's rights. It is my right not to have my work distributed without my permission - to ignore that right is theft, pure and simple...

Flamed, banned, deleted or ignored - no, treated as clueless maybe...   

the point is not just credit.. its control.... I offered my walls and skins up to WC users for personal use .. to support WC and it future. now without my permission this author has decided to take my stuff and offer it on his own site .. taking away traffic from my site as well as, taking away my ability to decide how my Intelectual property is distributed...hes not just hosting a site with links back to WC.. but offering the files himself.. this detracts from my ability as the Author to control my product....until this post I had no idea my walls were being offered there....



no flames here but.. i will say its pretty smug to defend his actions while at the same time bashing us for being upset...IM no slave and willingly offer my stuff to sites as long as they ask...but thats the POINT..... ASKING. it's called consideration..

why you seem to be on the attack is beyond me ..

Everyone has the right to treat his/her OWN property rights with disdain or indifference.

No-one has the right to treat others' in that way.

YOU may consider the giving of credit sufficient for YOUR peace of mind, but others definitely do not.

This is not about 'paranoia', it is about preventing the erosion of your property rights.

mschleisner ... the difference between Wincustomize.com and Topdownloads.net is that with the former the OWNER of the artwork is submitting it themselves for display/distribution and the act of so-doing indicates consent for its distribution. With the latter a person or persons unknown has TAKEN your artwork and has reposted it on a site outside of your control and consent. You should NOT now be forced to jump through hoops to have the work removed....it should NEVER have been posted there in the first place.

Here's a quite valid hypothetical.

You upload your works for public [free] download. You become rich and famous and realise you want to now charge for your works. You subsequently delete/remove them from all the sites you uploaded them to....and instead post them for sale elsewhere. No-one buys them. You then discover they are being distributed elsewhere freely....on a site you were unaware of.

This is why you CANNOT be lackadaisical with your property and its protection.

Whatever commercial success sites such as topdownloads.net may be enjoying is purely because of content they have no legal permission to be distributing.

At no time did I [or clearly very many others] consent to the commercial profiteering of our works by an unknown third party.

In contrast, we ALL did just that with our submissions to Wincustomize.com, and Deviantart.com, and all the other LEGITIMATE public art/skinning sites.

If an artist openly goes on record [through inaction] of failing to protect his own copyright it can come back to bite him in any future litigation against similar issues....